{"id":17752,"date":"2018-05-30T12:38:59","date_gmt":"2018-05-30T04:38:59","guid":{"rendered":"http:\/\/chinaworker.info\/?p=17752"},"modified":"2018-07-10T17:44:01","modified_gmt":"2018-07-10T09:44:01","slug":"reply-to-redchinacn-net-what-do-socialists-mean-by-independent-unions","status":"publish","type":"post","link":"https:\/\/chinaworker.info\/en\/2018\/05\/30\/17752\/","title":{"rendered":"Reply to redchina: What do socialists mean by independent unions?"},"content":{"rendered":"

We welcome an open and honest discussion with the readers and editors of redchinaCn.net on these developments and the programme and demands needed to take\u00a0workers\u2019 struggles forward<\/strong>
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By\u00a0chinaworker.info<\/p>\n

Redchina website<\/a> re-published our article from\u00a0chinaworker.info<\/strong>\u00a0about the three-week Flex workers\u2019 strike in Zhuhai (China: Zhuhai Flex workers\u2019 strike sabotaged by official trade union<\/a>). Our article was originally published on 28 April, and re-published by redchina on 21 May.<\/p>\n

The\u00a0regional officialdom of the ACFTU (All-China Federation of Trade Unions<\/a>) ordered the workers to\u00a0end the strike\u00a0in the name of \u201cstability\u201d without any of the strikers\u2019 demands being met by the company. Workers\u00a0understandably were enraged by this betrayal.<\/p>\n

Strangely, redchina carried an editorial comment on our article criticising our call for independent unions as\u00a0\u201ctotally wrong\u201d. In doing so,\u00a0your\u00a0editorial comment\u00a0gives\u00a0an inaccurate picture of our position on the trade union question, which is a crucial question for Chinese workers.<\/p>\n

China in 2018 has entered a new phase of workers\u2019 struggle, on a higher level, with cross-regional and coordinated strikes becoming more common.\u00a0This shows an increase of workers\u2019 consciousness and organisational abilities. This was the case with the crane operators who staged strikes<\/a> and protests in more than 30 cities in April and May, Lalamove drivers, and more recently interior design company workers.\u00a0China<\/span>\u2019s l<\/span>ong suffering school teachers have also staged strikes and protests<\/a> in many localities recently, partly inspired by the very successful strikes by school teachers in the US.\u00a0<\/span><\/p>\n

We welcome an open and honest discussion with the readers and editors of redchina on these developments and the programme and demands needed to take\u00a0workers\u2019 struggles forward. Differences can be debated in a friendly way, without misreporting our adversary\u2019s standpoint.<\/p>\n

What are independent unions?<\/strong><\/p>\n

Redchina makes a major error in our opinion when it equates our slogan for independent unions with pro-bourgeois or non-political trade unions:\u00a0\u201cIn the neo-liberal era, the slogan of the so-called \u2018independent trade union\u2019 is often used by the bourgeoisie and their scabs to advocate the so-called non-political trade unions that are separated from the political movement of the proletariat and limited to economic struggles.\u201d [redchinacn.net commentary, 21 May 2018]<\/p>\n

By independent unions, we mean unions independent of the state and independent of the capitalists and company management, which is the exact opposite of the situation with the ACFTU. As socialists we have never advocated \u201cnon-political\u201d unions. To be truly effective and\u00a0independent<\/em>, i.e. independent of\u00a0influence and control by\u00a0capitalism and the state, the trade unions need a clear anti-capitalist, anti-bureaucratic and socialist perspective and programme. This includes support for the building of a genuine workers\u2019 party, a socialist party.<\/p>\n

\u27b5 China: Incredible strike wave by crane drivers<\/a><\/h4>\n

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Rejecting the official strike-breaking ACFTU is not at all the same thing as becoming \u201cseparated from the political movement of the proletariat,\u201d which redchina warns about.\u00a0The official unions in China today are controlled by the state undemocratically, from the top down, and used to suppress workers\u2019 struggles as the Zhuhai strike showed graphically.<\/p>\n

This strike was not an isolated example, the strike-breaking role of the official so-called union is repeated time and time again. In the landmark car workers\u2019 strikes of 2010, which began at Honda in Foshan, the official union\u2019s anti-worker role was captured vividly in photographs showing yellow-capped union-hired thugs physically attacking the striking workers.<\/p>\n

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Strike-breaking role of ACFTU<\/strong><\/p>\n

We offer a challenge to the editors of redchina: Name a single strike in China in recent years that has been organised or even given support by the official unions? You will find this a very difficult mission. In criticising our call for independent unions you don\u2019t say what your alterative is. This seems to be a tacit defence of the official unions, without addressing their strike-breaking anti-working class role. Is this your position?<\/p>\n

The slogan of independent unions has not been invented by Trotskyists and Marxists, but has arisen from the workers themselves, from their own experience.\u00a0\u00a0In some of the struggles in 2018 such as the strikes by tower crane drivers, the workers have called for an\u00a0independent union and this has\u00a0actually\u00a0been created, de facto, by these workers.\u00a0This was\u00a0<\/span>also<\/span>\u00a0a key demand of the Honda Foshan workers in 2010 for example. It has been raised in many strikes over the past two decades in China. This is because the official unions are widely seen by\u00a0the mass of\u00a0workers as an additional barrier to their struggle. These so-called unions\u00a0act like\u00a0\u201ca second police force\u201d of the capitalists and the state as we pointed out in our article.<\/p>\n

\u27b5 China: Repression and arrests used to end Yue Yuen strike<\/a><\/h4>\n

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The official unions are not organised democratically and are closely allied with management in both state and private companies. It is very common for the union head at a company to be a management appointee and stooge.<\/p>\n

Redchina makes the claim (no concrete examples are offered) that independent unions have been used for\u00a0\u201crestoring capitalism in former socialist countries\u201d.\u00a0But this attempt to discredit the idea of independent unions as a bourgeois plot, which echoes the propaganda of the authorities who smeared the crane operators and other strikers this year as \u201cmanipulated by foreign forces\u201d, does not stand up to examination.<\/p>\n

Capitalist restoration<\/strong><\/p>\n

In the former Stalinist states, which were authoritarian and therefore not genuinely socialist, although based on public ownership, which we fight for, the main force behind the restoration of capitalism since the late 1980s, was not workers and newly formed unions. It was the former \u2018Communist\u2019 officials, factory directors and top military, who led the charge back to capitalism, turning themselves into a new super-rich bourgeoisie and \u201cdiving into the sea of business\u201d. Workers were cheated and robbed in this process as the old planned economy was dismantled and\u00a0transformed into the private wealth of former bureaucrats, while\u00a0workers\u2019 rights were undermined.<\/p>\n

In some cases, new trade union formations failed to clearly oppose the process of capitalist restoration, or even embraced some of the toxic illusions in the \u2018market\u2019. But their role was a secondary one, with the main counter-revolutionary pressure coming from the former \u2018Communist\u2019 leaders and officialdom. Look at most of these\u00a0former Stalinist\u00a0countries today, from Russia to Kazakhstan to the Czech Republic and we see governments led by former members of the \u2018Communist\u2019 officialdom\u00a0or their family members, who merely switched to become capitalists as easily as a drinker switching from red wine to white.<\/p>\n

In Poland, where millions joined the independent union \u2018Solidarity\u2019 in the strike wave of 1980-81, this organisation today, much smaller and more bureaucratic, has become a stronghold of reactionary pro-capitalist ideas. But that was not the case in the beginning.<\/p>\n

During the mass strikes of 1980-81 the workers in\u00a0\u2018Solidarity\u2019 were moving towards the position of defending the gains of the planned economy, but wanting to remove the unaccountable and privileged bureaucrats\u00a0to\u00a0establish workers\u2019 democratic control. From a working class standpoint this was a very progressive movement, but was lacking a clearly worked out programme and perspective for struggle.<\/p>\n

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Mass strikes by workers in Poland 1980 shook the Stalinist regime.<\/figcaption><\/figure>\n

A layer of right-wing religious-influenced intellectuals attached themselves to the leadership of this movement, but could not shift the movement decisively onto capitalist lines at that stage. Their main contribution\u00a0during the mass movement\u00a0was to apply the brakes, always urging retreat and compromise.<\/p>\n

These intellectuals were very similar in outlook to certain Chinese liberals and pan-democrats\u00a0today. The right-wing evolution of this former mass workers\u2019 movement occurred later, after the military crackdown (Martial Law) in Poland\u00a0in December 1981, which drove the trade union underground and facilitated the right-wing to take control of \u2018Solidarity\u2019. By the end of the 1980s the union leaders and their former jailers the \u2018Communist\u2019 bureaucrats had united around the same position: capitalism.<\/p>\n

Capitalism opposes independent unions in China<\/strong><\/p>\n

In China, the lack of a genuine i.e. independent trade union movement became a big advantage for multinational capitalism in its quest for increased profits. This is a major reason so many foreign capitalists chose to relocate production to China. In other words, China\u2019s actual experience contradicts\u00a0redchin<\/span>a\u2019s claim that the re-emergence of capitalism is helped by the formation of independent unions.<\/span><\/p>\n

In relation to China today,\u00a0there is\u00a0the US-funded Hong Kong NGO China Labour Bulletin<\/a>\u00a0(CLB),\u00a0which we criticise in our article, China: Zhuhai Flex workers\u2019 strike sabotaged by official trade union<\/a>. This group does not advocate independent unions. More than ten years ago CLB changed\u00a0its\u00a0position and now advocates\u00a0\u201creform\u201d of the ACFTU\u00a0saying\u00a0independent unions are \u201cunrealistic\u201d\u00a0in China.<\/p>\n

CLB\u00a0has received considerable financial support from US government-linked sources like the National Endowment for Democracy. So it is quite significant that a group that could reasonably be bracketed in the \u201cpro-bourgeois\u201d and \u201crestoration of capitalism\u201d category, opposes the demand for independent unions in China and instead supports reform within the ACFTU and CCP-state,\u00a0a position which we have criticised as a fatal dream. We are sure your readers would like to know where redchina stands on this question. As you clearly also oppose the call for independent unions, what is your\u00a0alternative? Is it also to support a \u201creformed\u201d ACFTU?\u00a0And if so, how do you distinguish your position from the \u201cpro-bourgeois, restorationist\u201d CLB?<\/p>\n

Can union struggle achieve victories?<\/strong><\/p>\n

Finally, we must take issue also with the extremely simplistic, black-and-white argument:\u00a0\u201cBecause in the neo-liberal era there is no room for social reforms under capitalism, the so-called independent trade unionism is no longer able to win any, even solely economic, benefits for the working class like it did during the post-World War II period.\u201d [redchinacn.net commentary, 21 May 2018]<\/p>\n

The epoch of imperialism and capitalist globalisation demands fighting trade unions to win improvements. In the West, the capitalists could afford concessions to the working class during the long boom 1950-75. Then followed the era of neo-liberalism with a ferocious capitalist offensive to redistribute wealth from the public to private sectors, and from the poor to the rich. At this time, the leaders of most trade unions globally openly accepted capitalism and even neo-liberal policies, a process that was mirrored in the collapse or political surrender of formerly\u00a0\u201csocialist\u201d and\u00a0\u201ccommunist\u201d parties. In China, this period saw massive growth of Chinese and foreign-owned capitalism, privatisation of state-owned companies, unprecedented exploitation of especially migrant workers and an explosion of informal precarious employment, all of which\u00a0were\u00a0made easier by the lack of\u00a0workers\u2019 rights and fighting unions.<\/span><\/p>\n

But, both in the West and in China, to claim\u00a0it is\u00a0not\u00a0possible\u00a0for unions\u00a0to win reforms\u00a0through mass workers\u2019 struggle is completely false and\u00a0contradicted by reality.<\/p>\n

Right now, US teachers in at least five states (West Virginia, Oklahoma, Arizona, North Carolina, Colorado) have won significant victories by engaging in very militant, historic strikes. They have won increased salaries and more money to the public education system. This is in the US, under Trump \u2013 it doesn\u2019t get more neo-liberal than that!<\/p>\n

These strikes, which have also emboldened other workers in the US to fight, have shown that determined workers\u2019 struggle can get results. This is also shown by mass union protests in Argentina and France against neo-liberal pension reforms which aim to cheat workers and pensioners. This shows that some neo-liberal attacks can also be stopped by mass action.<\/p>\n

On a smaller scale we also have a good example from Hong Kong, where a ten-day strike in January by public estate cleaners<\/a> managed to stop the company from cheating them out of severance pay.\u00a0These workers\u00a0are members of an independent union, the HKCTU<\/a>.<\/p>\n

A socialist alternative<\/strong><\/p>\n

Of course, what the capitalists concede with the left hand, they will take back with the right hand, once the relationship of forces has shifted back in their favour. This is not specific to the \u201cneo-liberal era\u201d but has always been true under capitalism. This is why Marxists and genuine socialists stand not only for reforms (universal pension system, cheap and good public housing, living wage, free education, free healthcare) by organising mass struggle, but also for the overthrow of capitalism which is the only way to safeguard and make permanent these reforms.<\/p>\n

The key issue, which is not addressed by simplistic black-and-white formulations about the impossibility of successful union struggle in the era of neo-liberalism, is the need for a fighting leadership and democratic union structures, which enable the grassroots members to eject or overturn a conservative or cowardly leadership\u00a0and reorient their organisations towards struggle.<\/p>\n

chinaworker.info\u00a0<\/strong>stands for political trade unionism, for socialist policies also in the union field, and a mass political party to represent the working class. This cannot be imposed\u00a0upon workers\u00a0as an ultimatum, but by actively\u00a0participating in and\u00a0supporting\u00a0their\u00a0struggles, helping workers to build their own genuine unions\u00a0in place of\u00a0a state-controlled strike-breaking\u00a0organisation. Marxists can\u00a0in this way\u00a0win the working class to socialist ideas and the need for\u00a0organised\u00a0mass struggle against capitalism.<\/p>\n

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