{"id":6578,"date":"2014-03-29T19:15:31","date_gmt":"2014-03-29T11:15:31","guid":{"rendered":"http:\/\/chinaworker.info\/?p=6578"},"modified":"2014-03-30T11:16:14","modified_gmt":"2014-03-30T03:16:14","slug":"scotland-10-questions-on-socialism-and-the-independence-referendum","status":"publish","type":"post","link":"https:\/\/chinaworker.info\/en\/2014\/03\/29\/6578\/","title":{"rendered":"Scotland: 10 questions on socialism and the independence referendum"},"content":{"rendered":"<p itemprop=\"itemReviewed\" itemtype=\"http:\/\/schema.org\/Thing\"><span style=\"line-height: 1.5em; color: #000000;\">Thursday 18th September is referendum day in Scotland. Discussions are taking place in workplaces, colleges, schools and communities all across the country. The run-up to September will be dominated by debate on how to vote and what might an independent Scotland mean for jobs and living standards. Would it mean and end and even a reversal of the savage cuts that we\u2019ve seen over the last few years ? Would working class people be better or worse off ? As a contribution to this debate Socialist Party Scotland has produced 10 questions and answers to explain our position on the referendum and the case for an end to cuts and the building of an independent socialist Scotland.<\/span><\/p>\n<p itemprop=\"itemReviewed\" itemtype=\"http:\/\/schema.org\/Thing\"><a href=\"http:\/\/media.chinaworker.info\/2014\/03\/indydemo-feat.jpg\"><img loading=\"lazy\" decoding=\"async\" alt=\"indydemo-feat\" src=\"http:\/\/media.chinaworker.info\/2014\/03\/indydemo-feat-600x319.jpg\" width=\"600\" height=\"319\" \/><\/a><\/p>\n<div>\n<h4><span style=\"color: #000000;\">Why is Socialist Party Scotland supporting a Yes vote in the referendum?<\/span><\/h4>\n<p><span style=\"color: #000000;\">Growing numbers of working class people \u2013 if we compare the situation to the 1970\u2019s and 1980\u2019s \u2013 are looking towards independence as an escape route from growing levels of poverty, cuts and falling incomes that face the majority of society. Since 1999 and the founding of the Scottish parliament we\u2019ve stood for a parliament with full powers over the economy, tax, the minimum wage, benefits, pensions and defence etc. \u00a0<\/span><\/p>\n<h4><span style=\"color: #000000;\">But what about workers and young people who are aren\u2019t convinced that independence under the SNP is the way forward?<\/span><\/h4>\n<p><span style=\"color: #000000;\">We agree with this opinion. In truth, our support for a Yes vote is critical support \u2013 given the limitations of what is on offer from the Scottish government. In other words we are calling for a Yes vote while also explaining that the SNP\u2019s model for independence would not change the lives of the majority of working class people in Scotland. Real change requires far-reaching socialist policies.<\/span><\/p>\n<h4><span style=\"color: #000000;\">But isn\u2019t the SNP promising a better, more prosperous Scotland after independence?<\/span><\/h4>\n<p><span style=\"color: #000000;\">An independent Scotland under the SNP would certainly be more prosperous for big business. Under Salmond and co\u2019s plans, the multi-national corporations would see their taxes cut. The SNP leadership are opposed to public ownership of the oil industry. They don\u2019t even support the renationalisation of the profit hungry energy companies. They believe that capitalism \u2013 an economic system that is in its deepest crisis since the 1930\u2019s \u2013 would be the bedrock on which a better Scotland would be built. This is ruled out in our view. Only through decisive socialist measures \u2013 democratic public ownership of the banks, oil and the major sectors of the economy \u2013 can we rebuild the economy in the interests of the working class as a whole.<\/span><\/p>\n<h4><span style=\"color: #000000;\">What about the Nordic model. Isn\u2019t that an example of a fairer capitalism that Scotland could follow ?<\/span><\/h4>\n<p><span style=\"color: #000000;\">The Nordic model, which refers to the situation that emerged in Norway, Sweden, Denmark and Finland after 1945 during a period of economic boom, is no longer viable, at least for the capitalists. The high quality welfare state, low levels of poverty (but with high taxes levied on the working class) is being undermined \u2013 in the case of Sweden in a brutal way.<\/span><\/p>\n<p><span style=\"color: #000000;\">The end of the post-war boom from the late 1970\u2019s on, which was reinforced by the world economic crisis in 2007\/08, has led to an unravelling of the Nordic model, with privatisation and deep social cuts being implemented. There is no possibility under capitalism of an independent Scotland delivering decent living standards and an end to austerity cuts.<\/span><\/p>\n<h4><span style=\"color: #000000;\">Wouldn\u2019t anything be better than living under a brutal Tory government that we didn\u2019t vote for ?<\/span><\/h4>\n<p><span style=\"color: #000000;\">We agree that the powers of independence could be used to transform the lives of millions if they were used in the interests of the majority. However, it\u2019s clear from the SNP\u2019s white paper that they will not go down this road. Under Alex Salmond\u2019s plan Scotland would form part of a currency union, with the Bank of England adjusting the straitjacket of what a Scottish government could spend on jobs and public services. The SNP want to join the big business dominated European Union that is being used as a battering ram to attack trade union rights and inflict savage austerity on the working class across the continent. The elite monarchy would remain as head of state under independence. Under the SNP\u2019s proposals it\u2019s not so much how things would change, its how much they would stay the same.<\/span><\/p>\n<h4><span style=\"color: #000000;\">So what kind of independence do you want to see ?<\/span><\/h4>\n<p><span style=\"color: #000000;\">We are campaigning for an independent socialist Scotland. We stand for:<\/span><\/p>\n<ul>\n<li><span style=\"color: #000000;\">tax increases on the rich and big business<\/span><\/li>\n<li><span style=\"color: #000000;\">raising the minimum wage to \u00a310 an hour<\/span><\/li>\n<li><span style=\"color: #000000;\">reverse all the cuts that have been carried through by the Con-Dem coalition.<\/span><\/li>\n<li><span style=\"color: #000000;\">For the powers of independence to be used to carry through a widespread programme of public ownership and democratic control of the major sectors of the economy to lay the basis for a democratically run socialist society.<\/span><\/li>\n<li><span style=\"color: #000000;\">Abolish the anti-union laws<\/span><\/li>\n<\/ul>\n<p><span style=\"color: #000000;\">To fight for these types of policies in an independent Scotland we need to build a new mass workers party, with the trade unions playing a leading role in this<\/span><\/p>\n<h4><span style=\"color: #000000;\">Is it possible to build socialism in just one country ?<\/span><\/h4>\n<p><span style=\"color: #000000;\">No. Capitalism is an international system of exploitation; the rule of an elite who own and control the means of production \u2013 the factories, the workplaces etc \u2013 and who employ workers to make profit for big business, not for social need. That\u2019s why we are campaigning for an independent socialist Scotland to form part of a democratic confederation with a socialist England, Wales and Ireland as a step to a socialist Europe and beyond.<\/span><\/p>\n<h4><span style=\"color: #000000;\">But won\u2019t it just weaken the Yes campaign if you criticise the SNP\u2019s policies?<\/span><\/h4>\n<p><span style=\"color: #000000;\">If anything, the SNP\u2019s emphasis on continuing with a pro big business agenda and refusing to pledge to end all cuts under independence is undermining support for a Yes vote. This is reinforced further by the experience of trade unionists and communities who face cuts by the SNP-led Scottish government and at a council level where they are in power. To win a Yes vote means convincing the majority of the working class that there would be major economic and social change under independence. This is not what the SNP are putting forward. The only answer to the smears of \u201cProject Fear\u201d and the so-called Better Together campaign is to put the case for a fundamental break from the onslaught of austerity supported by all the main parities. If the SNP leadership came out in favour of a 24-hour general strike of trade unions against the Con-Dem government, for public ownership of the economy and refused to carry out the cuts this would undoubtedly increase support for independence.<\/span><\/p>\n<h4><span style=\"color: #000000;\">Isn\u2019t there a danger that supporting a Yes vote can divide the working class?<\/span><\/h4>\n<p><span style=\"color: #000000;\">The best way to insure this does not happen is for the trade unions to lead their own campaign for the referendum that emphasises the need for pro working class policies and opposition to all cuts. In other words a campaign that unites the interests of the vast majority of working class people \u2013 regardless of how they are voting in the referendum.<\/span><\/p>\n<p><span style=\"color: #000000;\">Socialist Party Scotland stands for the unity of all workers across the trade union movement in Scotland and Britain. We are campaigning for the trade unions to build coordinated mass strike action \u2013 a 24-hour general strike \u2013 to fight austerity. And for the trade unions to initiate the building of a new mass working class party to fight for socialism.<\/span><\/p>\n<h4><span style=\"color: #000000;\">I agree with what you\u2019ve said. How do I get involved?<\/span><\/h4>\n<p><span style=\"color: #000000;\">Contact us via the website or Facebook at Socialist Party Scotland or Twitter @cwiscot. We have campaigning branches of the party across Scotland. Socialist Party Scotland members play a leading role in trade unions like PCS and Unison as well as the Youth Fight For Jobs campaign. Join us in the fight for socialism.<\/span><\/p>\n<\/div>\n","protected":false},"excerpt":{"rendered":"<p>Thursday 18th September is referendum day in Scotland. Discussions are taking place in workplaces, colleges, schools and communities all across the country. The run-up to September will be dominated by debate on how to vote and what might an independent Scotland mean for jobs and living standards. 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